You can read about the ridiculously granted Apple patent 7469381 at ycombinator.com via Hacker News at Can someone explain to me (like I'm 5) exactly what, besides the general concept of list scrolling with bounce-back to indicate end of list reached, it was that Samsung copied from the 7,469,381 patent?
Well, the idea contained in the Apple patent is so simply demonstrated that you can go back to the initial days of PCs for a good demonstration of the principle used, revealing the prior art and obviousness of the invention.
The essential principle of bounce-back scrolling becomes obvious if you play the famed Atari game PONG which was virtually "the first game" in the early days of the computer and you can still play it online here.
Whenever the ball hits the paddle, that is a "bounce-back" and if it does not hit the paddle, there is no "bounce-back". Apple has essentially stolen this PONG bounce-back invention for the basics of its scrolling patent 7469381, as we see from the court decision in Cupertino, to the tune of $1 Billion.
Now, THAT is professional theft.
Update:
In both cases you are simply defining "pointers"
that initiate changes when any pointer reaches a predefined
mathematical position on a display. There is no "invention" or
"discovery" involved here.
The fact that in Pong the
defining position is the near edge of the display and in Apple the
defining position can be some other reference point in the visible or
non-visible display is of no consequence to the prior art and
obviousness of the invention.
Whenever a pre-defined
"point" under predefined conditions is reached, a bounce-back occurs. In
that sense, there is no difference at all in the basics between a PONG
bounce-back and the method of bounce-back scrolling.
Indeed, a similar bounce-back "invention" is still found on
keyboards for word processing use. If you press Control + End keys on
your keyboard when working on a text program like Microsoft Word, the
cursor (viz. pointer) will spring to the end of the document from any location in the text, while if you press Control + Home at any location the cursor will spring
to the beginning of the document. I.e. the text can be made to
"bounce-back" forwards or backwards, and the same is true for getting
the cursor to the beginning (use the Home key) or the end of the line (use the End key).
Bounce-back scrolling is most certainly no innovation that should
entitle any manufacturer to exclusive rights as to its use because it
is merely a modern implementation of a tried-and-true method employed in
software programming long beforehand.
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Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Apple Samsung Jury Foreman Video Interview: A Legal and Patent System in Chaos
At the Washington Post video the Jury foreman discusses Apple-Samsung trial, verdict.
"Look and feel" and "feel and function"
are now the legal standards for patents?
So now laymen jurors like this determine international handset markets,
what can be produced and what can be bought by consumers worldwide,
and not the experts or the markets, right?
It is a legal and patent system in chaos.
Update:
See also at droid-life with a hat tip to androidheadlines.com:
Video: Jury Foreman in Apple vs. Samsung Opens Up About Reaching Verdict and the text there....
"Look and feel" and "feel and function"
are now the legal standards for patents?
So now laymen jurors like this determine international handset markets,
what can be produced and what can be bought by consumers worldwide,
and not the experts or the markets, right?
It is a legal and patent system in chaos.
Update:
See also at droid-life with a hat tip to androidheadlines.com:
Video: Jury Foreman in Apple vs. Samsung Opens Up About Reaching Verdict and the text there....
Jury Verdict in Apple v. Samsung Cupertino Case -- "Shoot First and Ask Questions Later" -- Is Very Unlikely to Withstand Judicial Challenge on Appeal Due to Errors by the Judge and Jury
The jury verdict in this case was issued so quickly that it is virtually impossible that the jury read their instructions completely and carefully, which they must do, and they must obey those instructions. All the evidence points to the jury NOT reading all the instructions fully and being led astray by their possibly not unbiased patent-holding foreman.
Groklaw has the story at Jury in Apple v. Samsung Goofed, Damages Reduced -- Uh Oh. What's Wrong With this Picture? ~pj Updated 4Xs writing inter alia in Update 2 (excerpted here) as follows:
Press the Restart (Reset) Button.
Read the whole article at Groklaw here.
Groklaw has the story at Jury in Apple v. Samsung Goofed, Damages Reduced -- Uh Oh. What's Wrong With this Picture? ~pj Updated 4Xs writing inter alia in Update 2 (excerpted here) as follows:
"Update 2: Dan Levine of Reuters has some words from the foreman:Yup. Trial over.
"We wanted to make sure the message we sent was not just a slap on the wrist," Hogan said. "We wanted to make sure it was sufficiently high to be painful, but not unreasonable." ...[Groklaw] ... Had they read the full jury instructions, all 109 pages [as PDF], they would have read that damages are not supposed to punish, merely to compensate for losses. Here's what they would have found in Final Jury Instruction No. 35, in part:
The amount of those damages must be adequate to compensate the patent holder for the infringement. A damages award should put the patent holder in approximately the financial position it would have been in had the infringement not occurred, but in no event may the damages award be less than a reasonable royalty. You should keep in mind that the damages you award are meant to compensate the patent holder and not to punish an infringer.The same instruction is repeated in Final Jury Instruction No. 53, in case they missed it the first time. Did they obey those instructions? Nay, did they even read them? The evidence, judging by the foreman's reported words, point the wrong way."
Press the Restart (Reset) Button.
Read the whole article at Groklaw here.
Monopolist Apple's Patent War Litigation vs. Samsung and Other Competitors Bound to be a Long Legal Battle With Patent Trolls as the Likely Winners
Apple v. Samsung: The legal aftershocks is the title of an article at ZDNet by Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols for Linux and Open Source with the summary:
"What do lawyers make of Apple's victory? They think among other things that, besides showing a broken patent system, Apple may yet regret its “victory.”"Read the whole thing here.
College Football Prediction Madness Week 1 2012 Division I FBS
College Football
Prediction Madness
Week 1 2012 Division I FBS
YPPSYS SportPundit (Andis Kaulins)
v.
Danny Vasta at Bleacher Report
This is posted in good fun in the spirit of competition.
"Danny V" and Bleacher Report are not affiliated in any way
We ran across the Danny V Week 1 college football predictions at Bleacher Report after posting our own predictions for Week 1 independently at SportPundit. We were surprised to see that prognosticated scores were quite similar, but there were also differences in predicting some game outcomes.
We thus thought it would be interesting to match up the predictions in a competitive table and see who comes closer to the actual results the first week of the season, a week which is often very predictable because many strong teams play weak opponents, but there are always surprises. In 75 games, we call the winners differently in 11 games. We also take different sides of the spread, i.e. home or visitor, in many games.
If the print is too small for you to read, press Control plus the plus sign "+" to size it larger and Control plus the minus sign "-" to make it smaller again.
We will compare the predictions
when the final scores of the actual games are known.
Prediction Madness
Week 1 2012 Division I FBS
YPPSYS SportPundit (Andis Kaulins)
v.
Danny Vasta at Bleacher Report
This is posted in good fun in the spirit of competition.
"Danny V" and Bleacher Report are not affiliated in any way
with this posting and we thus link to each separate Bleacher Report page for each game since there is much useful information found there (just click on the prognosticated score).
We ran across the Danny V Week 1 college football predictions at Bleacher Report after posting our own predictions for Week 1 independently at SportPundit. We were surprised to see that prognosticated scores were quite similar, but there were also differences in predicting some game outcomes.
We thus thought it would be interesting to match up the predictions in a competitive table and see who comes closer to the actual results the first week of the season, a week which is often very predictable because many strong teams play weak opponents, but there are always surprises. In 75 games, we call the winners differently in 11 games. We also take different sides of the spread, i.e. home or visitor, in many games.
If the print is too small for you to read, press Control plus the plus sign "+" to size it larger and Control plus the minus sign "-" to make it smaller again.
| Game (visiting team 1st) |
Line viz. "spread" (via Danny V or Beyond the Bets) |
Actual Game Winner & Score |
YPPSYS Sport Pundit "Y" Call |
ATS (against the spread) |
Danny V Bleacher Report "V" Call |
ATS (against the spread) | Closest Call to Actual Score "Y" vs. "V" |
| (Visitor v. Home) | (moving line may differ) | Prognosticator Andis Kaulins |
1 won 0 lost | Prognosticator Danny Vasta |
1 won 0 lost |
"Y" or "V" | |
| UCF v. Akron |
UCF by 24 |
UCF 28-14 |
UCF 34-7 |
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| E. Michigan v. Ball St. |
Ball St. by 3.5 |
E. Michigan 31-27 |
Ball State 24-23 |
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| S. Carolina v. Vanderbilt | SC by 7 |
S. Carolina 28-17 |
S. Carolina 24-20 |
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| SE Missouri St. v. C. Michigan | Chippewas by 18.5 |
C. Michigan 37-14 |
C. Michigan 37-17 |
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| Towson v. Kent State |
Kent by 14.5 |
Kent State 24-17 |
Kent State 28-13 |
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| N. Colorado v. Utah |
Utah by 34.5 |
Utah 48-10 |
Utah 49-7 |
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| UTSA v. S. Alabama |
S. Alabama by 6.5 |
S. Alabama 27-24 |
S. Alabama 17-14 |
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| UMass v. UConn |
UConn by 24.5 |
UConn 35-14 |
UConn 42-14 |
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| Texas A&M v. Louisiana Tech |
Aggies by 7.5 |
Texas A&M 28-21 |
Texas A&M 35-31 |
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| UCLA v. Rice |
Bruins by 15.5 |
UCLA 38-21 |
UCLA 27-13 |
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| McNeese St. v. Middle Tenn. |
Blue Raiders by 20 | Middle Tenn. 41-27 |
Middle Tenn. 30-14 |
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| Sacramento St. v. N. Mexico St. | NMS by 14.5 |
N. Mexico St. 30-13 |
N. Mexico St. 30-17 |
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| Southern Utah v. Utah State | Aggies by 16.5 |
Utah State 45-14 |
Utah State 34-14 |
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| E. Washington v. Idaho |
Vandals by 7 |
E. Washington 38-31 |
Idaho 24-21 |
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| Washington St. v. BYU |
BYU by 13.5 |
BYU 35 -20 |
BYU 38-31 |
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| N. Arizona v. Arizona St. | ASU by 27.5 |
Arizona St. 44-14 |
Arizona St. 42-17 |
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| Minnesota v. UNLV |
Gophers by 8.5 |
Minnesota 31-21 |
Minnesota 31-17 |
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| Villanova v. Temple |
Owls by 16.5 |
Temple 48-17 |
Temple 31-14 |
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| Tennessee v. N.C. State | Vols by 4 |
Tennessee 24-23 |
Tennessee 31-20 |
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| Boise State v. Michigan St. |
Spartans by 7 |
Michigan St. 27-17 |
Michigan St. 24-21 |
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| Wagner v. Florida Atlantic |
Owls by 9.5 |
Florida Atl. 31-10 |
Florida Atl. 23-14 |
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| San Jose St. v. Stanford |
Cardinal by 25.5 |
Stanford 44-14 |
Stanford 45-7 |
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| Navy vs. Notre Dame in Ireland | Irish by 17 |
Notre Dame 31-17 |
Notre Dame 38-14 |
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| Troy State v. UAB |
Troy by 5.5 |
UAB 27-26 |
Troy 24-20 |
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| Tulsa v. Iowa State |
Tulsa by 1 |
Iowa State 24-23 |
Tulsa 28-26 |
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| Appalachian State v. East Carolina | Pirates by 15 |
Appalachian State 41-24 |
East Carolina 34-17 |
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| Northwestern v. Syracuse |
Wildcats by 1 |
Northwestern 27-24 |
Wildcats 23-17 |
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| Miami of Ohio v. Ohio State |
Buckeyes by 23 |
Ohio State 42-10 |
Ohio State 38-10 |
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| Ohio v. Penn State |
Nittany Lions by 6 | Penn State 28-27 |
Ohio 22-21 |
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| Marshall v. West Virginia |
W. Virginia by 24 |
W. Virginia 39-17 |
W. Virginia 45-21 |
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| W. Michigan v. Illinois |
Illini by 9.5 |
Illinois 31-21 |
Illinois 38-24 |
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| Buffalo v. Georgia |
Bulldogs by 37.5 |
Georgia 35-0 |
Georgia 45-0 |
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| Elon v. North Carolina |
Tar Heels by 39 |
N. Carolina 44-7 |
Tar Heels 42-7 |
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| Idaho State v. Air Force |
Falcons by 31.5 |
Air Force 38-7 |
Air Force 38-7 |
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| Nevada v. Calilfornia |
Cal by 11.5 |
California 31-27 |
California 28-17 |
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| Nicholls State v. Oregon State |
Beavers by 28.5 |
Oregon St. 38-14 |
Oregon St. 31-7 |
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| William & Mary v. Maryland |
Terps by 31 |
William & Mary24-23 | Maryland 33-14 |
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| Richmond v. Virginia |
Cavaliers by 28.5 |
Virginia 38-7 |
Virginia 41-10 |
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| Bowling Green v. Florida |
Gators by 29 |
Florida 33-14 |
Florida 34-7 |
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| Miami (Florida) v. Boston Coll. |
Eagles by 1 |
Hurricanes 24-14 |
Hurricanes 17-13 |
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| Southern Miss v. Nebraska |
Huskers by 19.5 |
Cornhuskers 24-13 |
Nebraska 37-14 |
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| Northern Iowa v. Wisconsin |
Badgers by 37 |
Wisconsin 49-7 |
Wisconsin 56-14 |
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| Iowa v. Northern Illinois |
Hawkeyes by 9.5 |
NIU 31 -24 |
Iowa 30-17 |
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| E. Kentucky v. Purdue |
Purdue by 27 |
Boilermakers 42-14 |
Purdue 35-13 |
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| Colorado v. Colorado State |
Buffaloes by 5.5 |
Colorado St. 27-24 |
Colorado 28-20 |
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| Southern U. v. New Mexico |
Lobos by 10 |
New Mexico 27-20 |
New Mexico 21-13 |
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| Murray St. v. Florida State |
Seminoles by 49 |
Florida State 49-7 |
Florida State 52-0 |
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| Youngstown St. v. Pittsburgh | Panthers by 28 |
Pittsburgh 38-14 |
Pittsburgh 34-7 |
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| Liberty v. Wake Forest |
D. Deacons by 27.5 |
Wake Forest 31-17 |
Wake Forest 38-10 |
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| Jacksonville St. v. Arkansas |
Hogs by 36 |
Razorbacks 45-17 |
Arkansas 50-14 |
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| Austin Peay v. W. Kentucky |
Hilltoppers by 21.5 |
W. Kentucky 38-7 |
W. Kentucky 24-6 |
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| North Texas v. LSU |
Tigers by 43 |
LSU 38-7 |
LSU 45-3 |
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| SE Louisiana v. Missouri |
Tigers by 42.5 |
Missouri 55-7 |
Missouri 48-10 |
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| C. Arkansas v. Mississippi |
Rebels by 21 |
Ole Miss 37-14 |
Ole Miss 27-13 |
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| Tenn-Martin v. Memphis |
Tigers by 10.5 |
Memphis 31-23 |
Memphis 23-10 |
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| S. Dakota St. v. Kansas |
Jayhawks by 15.5 |
Kansas 38-17 |
Kansas 27-17 |
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| Missouri St. v. Kansas State |
Wildcats by 35 |
Kansas State 41-10 |
Kansas State 42-10 |
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| Northwestern St. v. Texas Tech |
Texas Tech by 35.5 |
Red Raiders 51-7 |
Texas Tech 42-10 |
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| Clemson v. Auburn |
Clemson by 3 |
Auburn 24-23 |
Auburn 24-20 |
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| Chattanooga v. South Florida |
Bulls by 30 |
S. Florida 38-17 |
S. Florida 38-12 |
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| Florida Int'l v. Duke |
Duke by 4 |
FIU 31-30 |
Duke 21-20 |
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| Savannah State v. Oklahoma St. |
Cowboys by 52 |
Oklahoma State 70-7 | Oklahoma State 59-13 |
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| Lamar v. LA Lafayette |
Cajuns by 25.5 |
LA Lafayette 49-7 |
LA Lafayette 42-7 |
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| Jackson State v. Mississippi St. |
Bulldogs by 38.5 |
Mississippi St. 38 -17 | Miss. State 48-10 |
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| Hawaii v. Southern Cal |
USC by 39.5 |
Southern Cal 40-17 |
USC 52-7 |
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| Texas State v. Houston |
Cougars by 36.5 |
Houston 49-7 |
Houston 49-17 |
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| Wyoming v. Texas |
Longhorns by 29 |
Texas 33-14 |
Texas 42-6 |
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| Rutgers v. Tulane |
Knights by 19.5 |
Rutgers 28-13 |
Rutgers 38-10 |
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| Indiana State v. Indiana |
Hoosiers by 23.5 |
Indiana 31-17 |
Indiana 27-10 |
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| Michigan v. Alabama |
Crimson Tide by 12.5 |
Michigan | Alabama 33-17 |
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| Weber State v. Fresno State |
Bulldogs by 28 |
Fresno State 38-14 |
Fresno State 38-9 |
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| San Diego St. v. Washington |
Huskies by 14 |
Washington 31-28 |
Washington 38-14 |
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| Oklahoma v. UTEP |
Sooners by 30.5 |
Oklahoma 42-21 |
Oklahoma 48-14 |
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| Toledo v. Arizona |
Wildcats by 11 |
Toledo 30-27 |
Arizona 38-35 |
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| Arkansas State v. Oregon | Ducks by 35.5 |
Oregon 38-21 |
Oregon 52-17 |
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| Kentucky v. Louisville |
Cardinals by 14 |
Louisville 27-14 |
Louisville 30-17 |
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| SMU v. Baylor |
Bears by 11 |
Baylor 34-24 |
SMU 31-30 |
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| Georgia Tech v. Virginia Tech |
Hokies by 7.5 |
Virginia Tech 31-27 |
Virginia Tech 28-17 |
We will compare the predictions
when the final scores of the actual games are known.
China Handset Technology Companies: The Chinese Are Coming
One of the reasons that a company like Apple dominates the US handset market is because the USA does all it can to keep legitimate competition out, an isolationist strategy that has no long-term chance of success, because it means that domestic industries have no pressure to keep up with technological developments, and they are in fact falling behind.
Not only has Apple been surpassed by the Korean Samsung worldwide in sales, but, according to various test reports, it also lags substantially behind in quality and technological innovation.
Samsung e.g. dominates the "best" smartphone lists in Germany, e.g., while Apple products are wallflowers.
For example, the Apple iPhone 4S is ranked 26th on the current chip.de chart, the highest ranking for that company's products -- which means that the American market does not reflect actual world handset realities.
Court decisions such as those in Cupertino against Samsung force Americans to buy "worse" products from Apple -- and at higher prices -- because they are hindering the competition unduly. The consumer is the one who bears the burden of faulty patent policies in the USA.
To make things even more difficult for America is the fact that the Chinese too are coming onto the handset market with their own branded products.
We ourselves buy our hand-helds at the wholesaler Chinavasion because almost all handsets -- also those from Apple -- are largely "made in Asia" anyway, so why should a savvy consumer pay "brand" monopolists three or four times as much simply for the label?
Giant companies such as Huawei and ZTE are becoming ever more important and are adding their own new technological refinements to their handsets.
See e.g.
Jay Greene and Roger Cheng at CNET News, Inside Huawei, the Chinese tech giant that's rattling nerves in DC
Roger Cheng at CNET News, Don't Know Huawei or ZTE? You will soon
As Cheng writes, ZTE "is the fourth-largest handset vendor in the world".
See also our previous posting on Lenovo at:
Lenovo in China with the Legacy of IBM Set to Replace HP and Dell as Number One in Global PC Market Share in 2013: Innovative and Nimble, with a Touch of Mao
Not only has Apple been surpassed by the Korean Samsung worldwide in sales, but, according to various test reports, it also lags substantially behind in quality and technological innovation.
Samsung e.g. dominates the "best" smartphone lists in Germany, e.g., while Apple products are wallflowers.
For example, the Apple iPhone 4S is ranked 26th on the current chip.de chart, the highest ranking for that company's products -- which means that the American market does not reflect actual world handset realities.
Court decisions such as those in Cupertino against Samsung force Americans to buy "worse" products from Apple -- and at higher prices -- because they are hindering the competition unduly. The consumer is the one who bears the burden of faulty patent policies in the USA.
To make things even more difficult for America is the fact that the Chinese too are coming onto the handset market with their own branded products.
We ourselves buy our hand-helds at the wholesaler Chinavasion because almost all handsets -- also those from Apple -- are largely "made in Asia" anyway, so why should a savvy consumer pay "brand" monopolists three or four times as much simply for the label?
Giant companies such as Huawei and ZTE are becoming ever more important and are adding their own new technological refinements to their handsets.
See e.g.
Jay Greene and Roger Cheng at CNET News, Inside Huawei, the Chinese tech giant that's rattling nerves in DC
Roger Cheng at CNET News, Don't Know Huawei or ZTE? You will soon
As Cheng writes, ZTE "is the fourth-largest handset vendor in the world".
See also our previous posting on Lenovo at:
Lenovo in China with the Legacy of IBM Set to Replace HP and Dell as Number One in Global PC Market Share in 2013: Innovative and Nimble, with a Touch of Mao
The Pinch Gesture as an Ancient Non-Patentable Natural Physical Historical and Technological Hand Mechanism With Prior Pinch Pot Art Galore as Obvious as the Hand in Front of Your Face : Our Modern Patent Systems are Operating in a Fantasy World
According to the decisions of the U.S. Supreme Court, most recently in Mayo v. Prometheus, laws of nature, natural viz. physical phenomena and processes, and abstract ideas are not patentable.
So what about the human "pinch" as a natural, physical, historical and technological "hand mechanism" with "prior art" and "obvious" to boot.
"Pinching" is one of the oldest of "hand gesture technologies" of humanity, as written at About.com:
"The potter's wheel did not appear in history until only a short 4,000 years ago. Prior to that, pinch and coil construction methods prevailed as the main ways clay was formed by man....We are in fact talking here about a VERY ancient natural phenomenon, since human gestures were formally not "invented" by man, but by God.
Producing pinch pots is the most direct method people have of interacting with clay. We push, and the clay responds. We pinch, and again the clay responds.... Through creating pinch pots, we can continually refine our ability to work by touch, rather than by sight alone."
Now a court and jury in Cupertino, California -- apparently operating in a vast knowledge vacuum -- have said in Apple vs. Samsung litigation that some greedy folks in California should be able to obtain monopolistic rights to pinching as a technological hand gesture mechanism.
How absurd is that? Have the people at Apple never heard of pinch pots?
How does a monopolist like the Apple firm (who virtually "stole" its name from the public goodwill rather than e.g. logically calling itself Wozniak-Jobs Co.) come to apply for a monopolistic "pinch" patent and also similar "multifunctional" human gesture patents? And how do hopelessly inept organizations like the USPTO come to grant such absurd patent applications rather than throwing them out the door?
Human gestures as tools of communication even long precede the pinch pots.
As written by Michelle Trudeau in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in
Primate Gestures May Be Clue to Human Language
"Watch a group of apes for a while and you'll inevitably see them use their hands to communicate ... the flexibility of gestures may be the first primitive step toward the evolution of human language."Few things are as much a "natural" physical process to human beings and their predecessor apes than "hand gestures", so it is more than incredible to find the absurd granting of patents on human gestures as applied to the operation of hand-held or similar electronic devices.
The possible explanation for this patent insanity can only be vast human ignorance and stupidty on a wide scale as found in legislatures, courts, law offices and government agencies.
In the days of the horse, we might have had to ride "no hands".
Imagine if the steering of automobiles "by hand" had been patented to one manufacturer -- forcing the remainder to use the toes of their feet or other anatomical features to steer their cars.
Or just think of a monopoly patent grant on using certain hand gestures to shift gears or operate other control devices on motorized vehicles.
Granting patents on hand gestures for hand-held devices is no different.
Granting patents for ANY KIND of HUMAN GESTURE or MOTION
-- all "natural physical processes" --
for whatever purpose is beyond absurdity.
It is anathema to the human spirit.
No greedy company invented or discovered human gestures or motions.
They should in no way be able to profit via currently impossible over-reaching patent grants, overbroad patent laws and warped patent law interpretations.
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